Jan 1, 2023 Update: Trouble coming from ATF and the (not quite) Final Rule Change?
Just after Christmas, the ATF sent out an Open Letter to all FFL Dealers and the general public informing everybody that the polymer Glock-style handgun 80% Frames were determined to be “Firearms” due to the “readily converted” criteria of the Gun Control Act of 1968, and would be regulated as such according to the Final Rule Change of late August (mentioned below). They of course put Polymer80, Lone Wolf and some other Frame manufacturers on notice, and many of you have most likely already heard about this.
The detail that you may not know about is that this “determination” by ATF was prompted by a letter to DoJ-ATF in October from (14) Dem Senators who wanted stronger enforcement of the Rule Change against manufacturers and sellers of those terrible “Ghost Guns”, ie. US! In their letter, those Dem Senators made it clear that they believed that anyone making and selling 80% Frames or Receivers was in violation of “the spirit” of the Rule Change, and that it didn’t matter if we (us specifically) were selling 80% Receivers only because the Jigs, Tools and Instructions were still available online, and that anyone could still acquire all of the components needed even IF from separate sources. And to those Dems, that means that ALL 80% Frames and Receivers are Firearms.
So at this moment, we’re not sure what could happen! The Rule Change states specifically that “Receiver Blanks” (as defined on ATF website) are NOT Firearms when not “sold, distributed or possessed” with a Jig, Tools or Instructions. But those Dem Senators want the DoJ-ATF to enforce the Rule Change their way no matter what it actually states. And since we are a licensed Manufacturer through ATF which allows us to build and sell completed Lowers as well, we could get a Cease and Desist letter at some point in the future. We are very sure that any actions on the part of the DoJ-ATF would be met with legal challenges, but those court actions take time. Because we want to keep our FFL-07 in order to build and sell complete Rifles in the future, we would have to comply until a Judge did an Injunction or otherwise made a decision.
We’re not going to ask you to send us money for a legal fund but rather the best way for you to support us, and keep us building and selling these products for all interested Gun Enthusiasts, is to purchase our products. We don’t expect to close our doors as a business, but we may be “convinced” to stop building and selling 80% Lower Receivers at any point.
Update: After Aug 24th we’re still building and selling 80% Lower Receivers!
We are still BACKORDERED on SR25 Uppers, but we’re getting ahead on ALL Lowers – and the Shipping Estimate for each part is shown with the Bolt Catch Pinhole option.
And most important:
The ATF Rule Change had NO Impact on our Business, and we will be making and selling 80% Lower Receivers for the foreseeable future. You do not need an FFL for shipping, because 80% Lower Receivers STILL do not need a Serial Number (other than CA as of 7/1/22).
Shipping & Returns Policy
Please refer to below terms for questions regarding shipping costs/times/restrictions, cancellations, returns, exchanges or warranty, or contact us by email.
Shipping costs are fixed at the following prices:
- $10 for a single Part
- $17 for two or more Parts
- and Free Shipping for Orders over $299
Special Note: All shipping estimates below are superseded by the estimate with selected Product Options when present.
Orders are not shipped on Sundays or Holidays. All parts orders are shipped by USPS Priority Mail.
Orders for in stock items are typically shipped within 0-2 business days of order processing per the following details for specific products.
Raw 80% lower receivers are coming off of the CNC machines all day long and are typically on the shelf for immediate shipping in 0-5 business days. We indicate up to 5 days because as a small business other priorities spring up on a regular basis and may need to be dealt with before shipments are made. Most shipments for raw Lowers go out within 24 hours.
Anodized 80 percent lowers are normally in stock but due to unpredictable demand for specific Product Options such as Skeletonized versions may be backordered. For this reason those specific lowers are shown as Shipping in 1-3 weeks mostly due to sending out in-stock Raw versions that are to be anodized.
Cerakoted 80 lowers are rarely in stock and are shown as Shipping in 1-3 weeks because we send out in-stock Raw versions in small batches to be coated locally to fill those orders as they come in.
Disclaimer: While we are providing useful information below in regards to various state laws currently on the books, these laws are subject to change at any date. We are in no way providing legal advice or counsel, and you should perform your own due diligence regarding the specific laws regarding unfinished firearm frames or receivers in your state or locality.
We can ship to any mailing address in the United States except CA, DE, IL, MD, NJ, NY and WA State plus DC. We do not ship Internationally due to ITAR concerns. By ordering from us you are agreeing to fully comply with all of your local state and local laws that may affect you. Below you can review the specific states that have potential legal ‘issues’ with 80% lowers.
We Will Not Ship to These States
CA – AB 1621 “(a) No person shall complete the manufacture of a firearm without subsequently (1) obtaining a unique serial number or other mark of identification from the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection pursuant to subsection (b) of this section, and (2) engraving upon or permanently affixing to the firearm such serial number or other mark in a manner that conforms with the requirements imposed on licensed importers and licensed manufacturers of firearms.”
Updated as AB 1594 “(1) … Under existing law, commencing July 1, 2022, a firearm precursor part is required to be sold through a licensed firearm precursor part vendor, as specified.”
– and, “This bill would redefine a firearm precursor part as any forging, casting, printing, extrusion, machined body or similar article that has reached a stage in manufacture where it may readily be completed, assembled or converted (is this per the ATF Rule Chng of 04/11/22?) to be used as the frame or receiver of a functional firearm, or that is marketed or sold to the public to become or be used as the frame or receiver of a functional firearm once completed, assembled or converted.”
– and, “This bill would require any person in possession of an unserialized firearm to apply to the department for a unique mark of identification and to affix that mark to the firearm before January 1, 2024.”
DE – HB 125 Sec 1459A effectively bans “Possession of an unfinished firearm frame or receiver with no serial number.” And the DE Legislature defines an Unfinished Frame or Receiver as “a firearm frame or receiver that requires further machining or molding in order to be used as part of a functional firearm, and which is designed and intended to be used in the assembly of a functional firearm”.
IL – HB 4383 effectively bans “Possession, transfer or sale of an unfinished firearm frame or receiver with no serial number.” And the IL Legislature defines an Unfinished Frame or Receiver as “any forging, casting, printing, extrusion, machined body, or similar article that: (1) has reached a stage a stage in manufacture where it may readily be completed, assembled, or converted to be a functional firearm”.
MD – SB 0387 Sec 5-701 (H) Defines an “Unfinished Frame or Receiver as a forged, cast, printed, extruded, or machined body or similar article that has reached a stage in manufactured where it can be readily completed, …”
– and, Sec 5-703 (A) states “A person may not purchase, receive, sell, offer to sell, or transfer an Unfinished Frame or Receiver unless it is required by federal law to be, and has been, imprinted with a serial number…”
NJ – NJ state AG has threatened legal action if untraceable weapons are marketed or sold in NJ which has an ‘assault weapons’ ban in place but does not ban 80 percent lowers specifically, and has no means to be issued a SN for a completed lower. A completed AR lower would constitute possession of an ‘illegal’ firearm by state law, but oddly enough a completed 308 lower would not.
NY – Unfinished frames and receivers are legal in NY as long as they are not used to manufacture a Rifle that violates the Safe Act, and as long as they are not used to make a pistol for a person that does not hold a pistol license. But the NY state AG has threatened legal action if 80% lower receivers are marketed or sold in NY.
WA – HB 1739 Sec 3 “…it is unlawful for any person to: (a) Manufacture, own, buy, sell, loan, furnish, transport, or have in possession or under control, any machine gun, bump-fire stock, undetectable firearm, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; … (d) Manufacture an untraceable firearm with the intent to sell the untraceable firearm.”
Updated as HB 1705 “The state prohibits the manufacture of an untraceable firearm with intent to sell. A violation of this restriction is punishable as a class C felony… After June 30, 2022, manufacturing, causing to be manufactured, assembling, causing to be assembled, selling, offering to sell, transferring, or purchasing an untraceable firearm is prohibited.”
Localities – There are several cities and counties that “Prohibit the possession, purchase, sale, receipt or transport of a non-serialized unfinished firearm frame or receiver or non-serialized firearm”. And as everyone knows, banning these specific parts from law abiding citizens will stop all firearms related crime. It must be nice to live in those cities with millions of people and a zero murder rate.
Localities Currently include: DC, Cities of Denver, Los Angeles, Oakland and San Fran, and San Diego County
We Will Ship to These States that have Laws Regarding 80% Lowers
CT – HB 7219 “(a) No person shall complete the manufacture of a firearm without subsequently (1) obtaining a unique serial number or other mark of identification from the Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection pursuant to subsection (b) of this section, and (2) engraving upon or permanently affixing to the firearm such serial number or other mark in a manner that conforms with the requirements imposed on licensed importers and licensed manufacturers of firearms.”
HI – HB 2744 amends Sec 134-1 “Prohibits the manufacture, purchase, or obtaining of firearm parts for the purpose of assembling a firearm having no serial number.” but Sec 134-2 provides option and allows you to serialize and register the completed lower.
NV – AB 286 Sec 3 “Prohibits a person from possessing, purchasing, transporting or receiving an unfinished frame or receiver unless: (1) the person is a firearms importer or manufacturer; or (2) the unfinished frame or receiver is required to be, and has been, imprinted with a serial number.” but this was struck down by the NV courts in Dec 2021.
RI – HB 7102 “Prohibits the manufacturing, importation, sale, shipment, delivery, possession, or transfer of any firearm that is ‘undetectable’ by metal detectors commonly used at airports and public buildings including 3D printed firearms as defined herein.”
Multiple Product Orders
For a multiple product order, we will ship all products contained in the order at the same time, unless we ask and you inform us otherwise. You will only be charged for shipping at the rate quoted to you on your purchase receipt. The entirety of the shipping cost will be applied to the first product(s) shipped on a multiple shipment order.
All products that are out of stock will be shown as “Out-of-Stock” on their respective product webpage, and therefore cannot be ordered until such time as additional stock has been added. Any products shown as back ordered and taking additional time to ship have an explanation as to why per above.
You may cancel your order and receiver a full refund at any time prior to shipping by contacting us by email.
Please contact us for an RMA (Return Merch Auth) number to be placed on the outside of the package being returned.
Parts may be returned for a refund less actual shipping costs and a 10% restocking fee for up to 10-days after receipt provided parts are unused and in original condition as shipped from us.
80% Lower Receivers (considered Parts) can be returned for a refund less actual shipping costs plus 10% restocking fee provided the products are unused nor modified. If an 80% Lower Receiver has been drilled or milled, it cannot be returned as it is now legally defined as a firearm.
We do not accept returns on Jigs under any circumstances other than parts with manufacturing defects or incorrect shipments.
Exchanges and Refunds
We will replace the product or provide full refund, plus pay for the return shipping costs, if the return is a result of our error such as you received an incorrect or incomplete order, or the product manufactured by 80Lowers contained defects.
If electing a refund, you should expect to receive the refund within one week of return receipt. However, in many cases you will receive a refund more quickly.
Limited Lifetime Warranty
If the product should fail to perform for the design function in any way for the life of the product, then we will replace the product with a superior version at no cost, or provide a full refund at the customers request. This warranty is null and void if the lower is not completed to mil-spec specifications. It is understood that customers can and will use Jigs from other sources, and we will not hold the use of competitor fixtures against the warranty.